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someone keeps re-shortcutting the 's' turn after attempts have been made to block it off. i'm not going to waste time blocking it off again. do we want to keep is straight or keep it interesting? should we make this a poll?
natepac
05-22-2008, 08:31 PM
lol, i was just about to send dave a pm about that same thing. Last time he saw it straight he blew a gasket. Just leave both open that way people can choose. minimize the controversy. world peace.
natepac
05-22-2008, 08:33 PM
someone keeps re-shortcutting the 's' turn after attempts have been made to block it off. i'm not going to waste time blocking it off again. do we want to keep is straight or keep it interesting? should we make this a poll?
looks like we are already making it a poll.
yea i noticed that this morning and thought about Dave's last request to whoever NOT to do that...there's lots of little battles going on out there....i wish the other parties involved would at least get the testicular fortitude to fess up instead of working in the shadows...you know if they bother to take tools out there to cut a portion of trail out they check this board from time to time.
i'd say overall keep it curvey...that's Carl's trail afterall..make it too straight it's gonna be a gully, but that particular short-cut could be a good thing if we channel the water into to old curve - although i doubt the person that made it took that into consideration.
natepac
05-22-2008, 09:03 PM
i'll admit, tonight when i got to that spot, i was stru-stru-struggling (looked like a wounded cowboy layin on his slow walking horse) and i went straight.
superdave
05-22-2008, 09:29 PM
yea i noticed that this morning and thought about Dave's last request to whoever NOT to do that...there's lots of little battles going on out there....i wish the other parties involved would at least get the testicular fortitude to fess up instead of working in the shadows...you know if they bother to take tools out there to cut a portion of trail out they check this board from time to time.
i'd say overall keep it curvey...that's Carl's trail afterall..make it too straight it's gonna be a gully, but that particular short-cut could be a good thing if we channel the water into to old curve - although i doubt the person that made it took that into consideration.
This morning? I just blocked it off again last night. Whatever, those guys can be fat asses and go straight because it's waaaay too hard to turn there. I think we should straighten out every corner and pave the trails. :rolleyes: I'm done trying. If I start seeing more corners being cut off, I'm going to freak the f%ck out. Either that, or I'm going to go out there w/ about 200 lbs of concrete and sink some 4" x 4"s.
NoName2
05-22-2008, 09:59 PM
carl you cut the trail so you get to decide.
my 2 cents is that you and dave are right. stop screwing with the old stuff just cuz you want to make it easier. destroying the hangman log crossing is another example of this.
ScottR
05-22-2008, 11:43 PM
At least we have something to talk about:).
natepac
05-23-2008, 06:54 AM
yeah pilotman stop cutting the corner off at cambodia. doubt it will become an epidimic dont see any other corners out there being cut.
Pilotman28
05-23-2008, 12:04 PM
Dude I don't take the shortcut. I'm for adding something in about trail maintenance on the new signage we got coming. I'm sure we could dump enough crap in that area to make it atleast interesting for them to unblock it.
While you guys are doing trail maintenance in that area just cut down as many yopans as you can which aren't helping to keep the trail there and pile them up as messy as you can. Eventually they'll get the idea and quit trying. They're probably many more of us than them so we'll win in this war of attrition.
it had been logged off and then when i did some trimming i piled it high. whoever opened it back up looks like they hauled the debris away. maybe we could block it with those tractor tires and the new dishwasher.
as an option, we could leave that open and put maybe 3 log obstacles or a skinny.
Pilotman28
05-23-2008, 12:49 PM
Now THAT would be worth it. something real technical so as to challenge us a bit. A skinny eh? or maybe a teeter totter?
superdave
05-23-2008, 01:16 PM
Now THAT would be worth it. something real technical so as to challenge us a bit. A skinny eh? or maybe a teeter totter?
Brick wall, spike strip, pit of gators, etc
natepac
05-23-2008, 02:20 PM
Dude I don't take the shortcut. I'm for adding something in about trail maintenance on the new signage we got coming. I'm sure we could dump enough crap in that area to make it atleast interesting for them to unblock it.
yeah there was alot of debris there several times and it keeps getting cleared. need to find out who it is and put them to work on parts of the trail that actually need toi be worked on.
just joe
05-25-2008, 11:19 AM
Actually there is a old f'ed up wahser out there. We should haul it to the cut and drop it there. I'd like to see someone mess with that.
natepac
05-25-2008, 05:39 PM
Actually there is a old f'ed up wahser out there. We should haul it to the cut and drop it there. I'd like to see someone mess with that.
Is it a washer or a stove?
ScottR
05-25-2008, 06:38 PM
Actually there is a old f'ed up wahser out there. We should haul it to the cut and drop it there. I'd like to see someone mess with that.
I think its a stove... They would just reroute it around the stove. We can set up a motion sensor camera like the ones deer hunters use. Then we could post picures of the culprits, and the sissys who take the shortcut. We could make a hall of shame thread.
Diomedes
05-26-2008, 10:05 AM
I'm probably gonna be heading out to U dubb sometime later this week, and will likely be packing a chainsaw and a whole load of tools.... any requests for some major blockage to be generated on that cut-through? If there are any decently sized logs lying about in close proximity, I could provide... :D
Pilotman28
05-26-2008, 10:34 AM
Do it man. We'll see who breaks first. Us or them.
CleverOgre
05-27-2008, 03:51 PM
... just my thinking, the horse people are the culprits.. they would be the logical choice for that shortcut as the curve isn't horse friendly... they would also have lots of "horse power" to remove lots of debris quickly
... said horse people are prolly sponsible for removing the overhead log (the one with the blaze) on bone as well... flop on that trail now...
Pilotman28
05-27-2008, 04:07 PM
Something like that should be able to be avoided then. We're supposed to co-exist with them right Carl? Horse people left a LOT of crap on the trails on Saturday. Horses are supposed to crap while walking but these were flops in piles meaning those horse people are just straight up @$$holes.
I don't want to harm the horses but just merely knock their riders off while saying "HEY, MORON. I RIDE HERE TOO!"
NoName2
05-27-2008, 04:47 PM
my 2 cents is it's one of us. the horse folks aren't out there enough to remove it on a daily basis. as soon as we cover it it's cleared off the next day. i think it's chris davis trying to throw the blame off on the poor defenseless horses. :fight: damn you chris stop clearing it. :)
i would go so far as to say it not only horse people but people that own livestock, maybe even farmers. possibly even people that don't live in the city limits. people with accents. the Amish? Mennonites? Luddites? Pastafarians? Frisbeeterians?
NoName2
05-27-2008, 07:39 PM
Frickin' Frisbeeterians! :mad:
i would go so far as to say it not only horse people but people that own livestock, you mean horses are not livestock??:confused:
scratchndent
05-28-2008, 09:22 PM
cows, sheep, vicunas,...
Man what the hell is a vicuna.............can you eat it?
natepac
05-28-2008, 09:38 PM
The vicuņa (Vicugna vicugna) is one of 2 wild South American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_American) camelids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelid), along with the guanaco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanaco), which live in the high alpineous areas of the Andes. It is a relative of the llama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llama) and the alpaca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpaca).
http://www.quantum-conservation.org/EEP/vicuna.gif
just joe
05-28-2008, 09:49 PM
Washer, stove, whatever. I'll be the first to say I use any cut if its open otherwise I dont, but I would like to know whos messing with things.
Pastafarians? Awesome, I mean who doesn't love pasta?
scratchndent
05-29-2008, 06:14 AM
So can you eat it or just wear it?
pastafarians are a group stemming from the church of the flying spaghetti monster. google it.
Diomedes
05-29-2008, 10:01 AM
Ok... Pastafarians, Frisbeeterians and various livestock are gonna have to make the curve soon... I'm heading out tomorrow morning with a couple of chainsaws, some posthole diggers and sundry other equipment.
I won't be able to actually start sawing until about 2:00 PM since that is when a friend of mine will be able to join me; that is unless someone else wants to come out early and buddy up for the chainsawing segment. Just don't want to be alone in case something happens...
Right now I am thinking about a big pile of logs secured by sunken logs on four corners to prevent them from being hauled out of the way. I may experiment a bit with a very rustic teeter totter just for fun, but the main concern is keeping the masses from using the cut through. Any further thoughts?
superdave
05-29-2008, 11:51 AM
Right now I am thinking about a big pile of logs secured by sunken logs on four corners to prevent them from being hauled out of the way. I may experiment a bit with a very rustic teeter totter just for fun, but the main concern is keeping the masses from using the cut through. Any further thoughts?
Something that may work just as well as anchoring w/ logs is to anchor with rebar. If you had a sledge hammer and about 6 or 8 pieces of 24 - 30" rebar, you should be able to just hammer that through the log. I was thinking about doing that, but just haven't made the time.
natepac
05-29-2008, 11:55 AM
think ya'll are spending way too much time on this trivial re-route. the time your about to invest on making a baracade can definetly be elsewhere.
Pilotman28
05-29-2008, 12:31 PM
I'd like to see a teeter or some other sort of trials-trail contraptions over there. that'd be fun! I miss the trials-loop for the technical stuff it had on it.
Nate: Quit being a nancy-nay-sayer. No one likes a party-pooper!
CleverOgre
05-30-2008, 03:41 PM
think ya'll are spending way too much time on this trivial re-route. the time your about to invest on making a baracade can definetly be elsewhere.
AhaA! See its not me... it's Nate! horses...
natepac
05-30-2008, 07:21 PM
nope not me, but dont think man hours need to be spent building a "structure" to prevent people from taking a 50ft shortcut.
Diomedes
05-31-2008, 08:38 AM
Well, I started yesterday evening, and played around with the teeter totter idea until I ran out of energy and the saw got dull. If anyone wants to bring another saw out there and maybe an axe and finish smoothing the top of the teeter totter log, that would be good. It also needs something done to keep the three logs on the bottom from shifting, but that shouldn't be too hard. At least its harder to ride that way now... :-D
Loggahead
05-31-2008, 11:43 AM
wow...
I definitely say that "Battle of the Trail" has been won... That is a massive roadblock. I saw it this morning when I was wrapping my main loop run. Pray the offenders don't get the urge to outdo this one!
I was indifferent either way. I kind of agree with Nate, but hey, I guess its the principal of the matter, right?
-logga
natepac
05-31-2008, 01:52 PM
i think the totter will be rideable if u redo the log at the top of triangle. the cut out on it only needs to be like 1-2 inches wider than the totter log. that way the totter log swings less (left to right) when your riding across it.
Diomedes
06-02-2008, 09:44 AM
Yeah, I agree with you Nate, but it will probably be a while until that gets done, mostly because I wasn't planning to head out and do TM there for a while- kinda burned out after this weekend. Its pretty rideable now that the top is flattened, but does move nicely in three dimensions as you go over.... good fun :endo:
i tried riding it yesterday. i made it over once but it wasn't pretty. i think that the totter should be facing downhill so you can carry some speed over it. going uphill doesn't work as well. it's a nice looking feature.
Diomedes
06-04-2008, 10:10 AM
I had it facing downhill and it persistently dumped me into the trees on the right of the trail. Since I was too lazy to realign the stack of logs, I just turned the teeter log around. I think at some point I will go out and completely redo it- change the width of the cutout, stabilize the stack of logs, and make the ends of the teeter more ramped. For now though, if anyone feels inclined to improve it, please do. Its not like there is a shortage of logs in those woods if something gets messed up.
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